Suze Cooper 0:03

Hey, this is Madalyn Sklar and Suze Cooper and you're listening to All Things Audio

Madalyn Sklar 0:13

Let's get started with a tweet this week from Super Follows. That's the subscriber tier, it's kind of like a Patreon where you can have your community pay, I think like $5, $10, you can pick an amount, and you can send curated content just to your members. And we know that recently, I believe it was in May, it was announced that they weren't going to allow those that were using the super follows to have spaces like private spaces for the community. But apparently it was iOS only because the tweet that came out this week said, creators on Android can now host super follower only spaces. And then in the second paragraph, they do mention that you can now record them, I have the ability to do super follows, but I never did venture into it, because I'm actually planning to relaunch my Patreon. So I haven't really tried this out. But I'm really excited that they do have the ability for you to host private spaces for your community, if you're using super follows. And that now is available, whether you're on iOS or Android, I remember signing up it was that whole monetization thing, which you know, all you guys have to do is just go on to the mobile app. And in your sidebar menu, you'll see a section for monetization. And we'll let you know if you can apply if maybe you applied in the past, I'll let you know the status. And then if you got approved, it'll be set up and you can just turn it on. But this is where you invite your community to pay you money every month. And I don't know that many people using it is usually like bigger names, like like big name people that I've seen do it. But I haven't heard them talk much about utilising spaces for their private communities.

Suze Cooper 1:59

I think it's great. I think it'll be good to see what people do with it. From what you're saying there potentially a little bit like we said, were ticketed spaces. Is it one of these things where there's so few people that have got it, that we're going to hear that it's a thing, but then we're never going to see it because not that many actually not that many people actually have access to it. And therefore it kind of doesn't get enough momentum behind it to really get going. Or is it something that people could be creative with and actually have a go with and we might see a bit more on the platform. I think only time is going to tell really.

Madalyn Sklar 2:30

I agree 100% Next up a tweet. And you can follow along in the nest. If you're here live with us. If you're listening to the replay or if you're listening to the podcast version, we always make sure it's in the show notes as well. But Legion had a tweet that went out also this week, letting us know that Twitter spaces had rolled out new emojis to all Android users. Those of us on iOS, we have to wait. It says following suit. And you know what? Looking live here, look at all the people doing the 100 emojis. I'm assuming they're Android people. Let me see if I - Oh, Suze, I had that 100 back. So interesting how this tweet says iOS to follow soon I met maybe follow soon means now look, we're all doing it?

Suze Cooper 3:15

For the podcast. I've taken a screenshot which I will tweet out and then add into the show notes. There is a shower of 100 in the All Things audio space right now I'm loving it. This is great. And yes, Madeline I noticed yesterday while I was doing my holding space, spaces with Ray Ray that the 100% was back. And I love it. Look at it, look at them all. Everybody's pushing their 100%

Madalyn Sklar 3:42

It's blowing up right now. I love it,

Suze Cooper 3:45

You know, and the thing is, it was an emoji that we all loved. And, and it was taken from us. And now it is back. And I think the fact that everybody's using it right now really is just showing that it's one of those that we really connect with. And that really says what we think and what we mean. And I think that's the beauty of these emojis is that the palette has to be right for the listeners to be able to share what they're thinking and feeling about what's being said. That's the whole use of them, isn't it? And I think people have really connected with the 100%. So it's really great to see it back. It has absolutely. You know, it's back here on iOS and back on Android. So yeah, it seems Madalyn as though that coming soon was sooner than you even imagined.

Madalyn Sklar 4:29

Absolutely. I'm very happy because yeah, this has been the first time I've been back on spaces and several days. So it seems like it's rolled out to everyone. Here's what's so interesting. I love that they have not only a thumbs up and a thumbs down.

Suze Cooper 4:43

Yeah, I see it.

Madalyn Sklar 4:44

Do you think people are going to use that? I bet that's going to be something people are not going to be afraid to do if they're hearing something they don't like it doesn't have to be a negative thing. It's just letting the host know like, Hey, this is not resonating with me. I mean, do you think people will use it? I think they will

Suze Cooper 5:00

I think it's quite... It's quite a gentle negative emoji. Let's put it that way, isn't it?

Madalyn Sklar 5:06

Right, Right. i That's how I feel for sure.

Suze Cooper 5:10

You know, thumbs up. Yeah, this is great thumbs down, not so good. I'm not seeing it as completely negative, I think it's right that they do have one in there that is less positive than the others. I'm loving the fact that I've now got access to 10 emojis, I don't think I've ever had a palette of 10 before, I think I've had five different ones. But I've now got, you know, crying or laughing shock, crying with tears, a heart, the 100%, the clapping hands, the fist, thumb up thumb down in the wave. And it's quite a nice palette, as I say, to sort of be able to be part of the conversation without having to take the mic. And that's absolutely what they're there for. And as I say, I think they needed to give that wider range just to make them as useful as they could possibly be. So I'm really pleased to see 100 back, I'm pleased to see a wider range of them, I would still really like to be able to customise them for my space. But still, I think this is a great step forward and a change that is good.

Madalyn Sklar 6:12

I agree. 100%. I love seeing all the interactivity, I think people are excited to have that 100 back, it definitely blew up once we started talking about it. And it's great to see more choice. I think that's the bottom line. There's more choice here. So I'm very excited. This is now available for everyone. If you are in spaces, and you're not seeing this, I would go download the newest version of either iOS or Android, whichever type of phone you have, you probably just need the most current version of the app to be able to see it. Next up super exciting stuff to share. I got these next several tweets coming from Andrew at spaces dashboard. Some really interesting tweets. So first off, he had shared a tweet from I think it was last week. CNN did their own Twitter space, very high profile. It was Twitter space. For CNN joined by the New York Times, you know, we talked about in the past, like, are we going to see more big brands using spaces are we going to see high profile users? And we weren't really seeing it for some time, right? But I go and look at this replay for CNN, honour and 76,000 listens. I was blown away. It was hosted by one of their really popular news anchors, and they had several writers from the New York Times. Plus it was wasn't just these high profile accounts, the news anchors own account, these writers own accounts, it was a New York Times profile as well and CNNs profile. You had a lot of big brands on here and big names. I think that really helps with people knowing about it, wouldn't you think like it's going to show up in so many different fields?

Suze Cooper 8:03

Yeah, yeah, I mean, we've spoken about this before about how, you know, certainly those accounts that have got the mic, it then feeds out to their followers. So if their accounts that have got a large following, then that's going to be seen by more people. Now we absolutely know there's a discoverability issue with spaces. So when it comes to a high profile brand using Twitter spaces, obviously, that brand generally has a fair few followers. And they also often have more than one account that's got a fair few followers. So really, the strategy and the tactic that I'm seeing is to get as many of those accounts with the mic so that they then appear on the bar, you know, with all the different account logos, which looks great, and shows that those people are alive and in that space. But he's also hopefully generating a little bit more interest and giving a little bit more leverage to the discoverability. Because the algorithms then kind of feeding out that these accounts are active in a space at the moment and therefore chucking that out to their followers. So yeah, it's great to see I mean, what a number 176,000 listens incredible.

Madalyn Sklar 9:17

It is incredible. I was so impressed when I saw this and I think we're seeing this trend now work with bigger brands utilising this just by going to spaces dashboard.com and looking at all the easy ways to access to different spaces. We were seeing bigger brands on there. So I think this is exciting news and just really shows how much spaces is growing. And the next tweet is also from Andrew at spaces dashboard are some really mind blowing stats for the month of September. He did this great graphic in the tweet that just shows these incredible numbers. 1.2 million spaces were created just for the month of September 72 million live participants that does not include replay that's just live participants for one month, and 1.7 million hours of audio. I'm just My mind is blown. And that's just to know that's for one month.

Suze Cooper 10:12

Yeah, it's really encouraging. I mean, I've had a few conversations this week in different places, I've started doing a LinkedIn audio event. I've did it last week, I did it this week, I think it's too early to call it a regular thing, but potentially it will be. But you know, we're kind of hearing over there from creators who are getting quite disillusioned and the saying, you know, I'm doing this every single week, nobody's dropping by, no matter how hard I try, I can't beat the algorithm, and they're not giving priority to my audio driven messages and posts. You know, and that's both true, really, I'm hearing that from creators here on spaces and over on LinkedIn. So it's quite encouraging to hear that people are still creating spaces, there are still millions of live participants there. And that is, you know, it is probably a long game just like podcasting is and we are up against, you know, the algorithm every turn. So it's it's hard work, trying to push through that. But stuff like this is really encouraging from a creator perspective to say, you know, there are people out there listening and taking part. And you know, it's a commitment, but it's one that's probably worth it. If you're if you're in it for the long game.

Madalyn Sklar 11:27

Absolutely 100%, I put some tweets in the nests of just the excitement of the new 100 emoji, and your your screenshot, I just had to show that off. It's just too exciting.

Suze Cooper 11:40

I don't think it really captured the absolute flurry of 100 words that appeared on my screen To be honest, because I think once I'd taken it, they all kept coming. Honestly, podcast listeners, it was incredible to be part of seeing all these one hundreds appearing on my screen. It was great. Thank you listeners.

Madalyn Sklar 11:56

Next up another tweet from the Android spaces dashboard. And this is just a good reminder tweet, you know, we are not being paid by Andrew to talk about spaces dashboard, we talk about it because is a great free site for spaces discoverability just go to spaces dashboard.com. And we've mentioned this in the past that if you're like us, you host your co hosts. Or even if you speak in other people's spaces, you also not only do want to use it discover other rooms. But if you're actively speaking, hosting and doing all that, go to the spaces dashboard and go to my spaces you'll see at the top. Not like my space, the old social media platform, but you'll see my spaces, you go there and you'll see all of your stuff on one page, which is pretty amazing to go see all your past and all of your scheduled upcoming rooms. So just wanted to throw that out there. Andrew has been posting so many great tweets have so much awesome information with Twitter spaces. I just want to give him a nice little shout out and just a reminder to everyone. If you've not taken time to go over there, I highly recommend you do.

Suze Cooper 13:03

Absolutely we definitely love spaces dashboard. This next one that I found Madalyn just kind of caught my eye. It's on Social Media Today. It is the headline is 'WhatsApp launches call links to better facilitate group audio and video chats'. Now, we had discussions about this late last year earlier this year around meta around Facebook, they totally stepped out of the podcast game. They said no, we're not doing audio, we're definitely having you know, we're not going to do the podcast stuff that we thought we were going to do. I remember we were talking that perhaps we might see social audio ability over on Facebook in groups, maybe that would be a great place for it to be now they pulled the rug on all of it. And we've heard nothing more from them since now WhatsApp is obviously is obviously meta and hear it here they are with this core links feature. Now, you know, it's not social audio, I get that it's not but it still sounds rather similar. So the idea of this is that you can share a link and invite others to join a group chat within the WhatsApp app. And that can be a video chat or an audio chat. And I think you can have up to kind of 3032 people it says in this, this article here. join that. So it's not social audio. It's not like hundreds of people all being on the platform. But it kind of does still have echoes of what we're doing here. They're talking about it having like its own calls tab within the WhatsApp app. And it actually says a paragraph here that leapt out of me it could be an easy way to help enhance community connection and facilitating engagement while brands could use the option to better connect with influencers and advocates in a more direct intimate way. Now that that does sound like social audio.

Madalyn Sklar 14:55

Let me mention these two articles. They both come from Rachel ever bad read had media. She's always posting really interesting articles about social media. This first one is what is social audio? And why should I be using it. And this is really some great tips on why she use social audio and how to use it in your marketing. I know a lot of this stuff is just more for beginners. But for those of us doing this a while, still some good tips in here. So benefits of social audio, less competition, you know, when I think back, Suze to like the early days of blogging, the early days of podcasts, same thing, right? It was less competition and you stood out more. I started podcasting in 2013. Well, in 2013, there weren't too many other people doing it. So what a great way to stand out. I started blogging in 2000. Well, most people in 2000 have never even heard the term blog yet. It was not a mainstream term at the time. So being an early adopter, having less competition is never a bad thing. So I feel like we're still early days of social audio when you agree, is still

Suze Cooper 16:03

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I think that that's, that is where some of us that were involved in the beta testing. And this is kind of similar with the LinkedIn thing, you know, there are people over there that were involved in the beater, and they're still trying, you know, hard and creating the content every week, but then they're not getting anything back from it yet, I still think there is value in adopting this stuff. And being an early adopter, and getting on top of it early getting on top of it. Now while it's not saturated, because I really don't see it's going to go anywhere. And to be honest, I think having the skills of being able to host and facilitate a live audio space, you know, even if it did go somewhere that is still valuable to you. So I feel like it's still worth continuing to do that. Obviously, you know, we've been doing this for over a year. Now. I mean, we're nearly going to come up to the point where we're going to say two years, which is just incredible. But we know that we started extremely early on in the journey of Twitter spaces. And you know, we're still talking generally to people who even know what spaces are like there are still people out there who don't know what social audio is, who don't realise that you can jump into one of these spaces. Who don't know what clubhouse is, and I've never tried it out. So it's really important. I think, on those days when we think oh, my goodness, I'm doing this thing again? And is anyone going to turn up? And is it really worth it? Well, it is worth it. Because even if one person turns up and listens to what you've got to say, that's one person who you wouldn't have reached before, you know, you're doing this on a new platform in a different place. And I just think it is worth it to build your own skill set up. And also to understand the platform more, because I really don't believe it is going anywhere.

Madalyn Sklar 17:55

I agree 100%. And since jumping into Twitter spaces, I mean, I've been doing this for it's going to be two years. At the start of the next year. Like we're just a few months away from a new year. And it's almost two years I've been just all in on Twitter spaces. And one of the things that this article points out are things I've noticed for my own brand, my own Twitter profile, which is increased credibility, expanding the reach, increasing engagement, I've gotten way more followers. If it wasn't for Twitter spaces this past almost two years, I would not be at 100,000 followers by now it would have taken me a little bit longer for sure. I definitely saw a huge increase in my follower account, just by hosting spaces in jumping into other people's spaces. So another thing this article mentions less ad saturation. I mean, let's face it, ads are everywhere in social media, but they haven't gotten to social audio yet, which I'm really happy about that zoos. I'm sure you are, too.

Suze Cooper 18:56

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I remember us talking about, you know, could ads appear on on the fleets bar for spaces way back when before it became the spacebar. And the kind of idea that there's sort of that real prime real estate, being at the top of bar, have the spaces feed, you know, having the space, so it's top bar of the Twitter feed, having that spaces bar up there, that that'd be a great place for visual advertising. It would also not be completely out of the question that Twitter might consider allowing you to put some kind of pre roll advertising before your space starts or, you know, all those different things that we hear with podcasting would totally be available to spaces. I'm really glad they're not at the moment. Obviously there are ways that hosts themselves can can monetize the spaces depending on you know, the audience that they've got the numbers that they're seeing those kinds of things. It's similar to podcasting in that respect, I get, I guess, but in terms of sort finding a sponsor potentially, that's what we've seen before. Those kinds of branded spaces where people are dropping branded messaging while they're hosting their space. That's been happening as well. But yeah, in terms of, you know, the amount of ads when you think about how often you might see an ad in the feed, certainly, in audio terms at the moment, there's nothing that is intrusive here at the moment.

Madalyn Sklar 20:25

I'm sure it will come. At some point, I think it probably will. Yeah. But until then we can really enjoy that there's not much of advertising, standing in the way between you and your message and social audio. So again, these are just some great benefits to jumping into social audio. And then when it talks about how to use social audio for marketing, the things that really stood out to me in this article, was partnering, partnering with influencers and experts. And that is so smart. I had the idea for this room, I talk about just the latest social audio, what I do, I partnered with you soon as you're like the expert, when it comes to audio, I mean, you are truly all things audio, that this is your thing, you know, your stuff. And I knew that you would be the perfect person for me to partner up with on this. And this has just been such a great experience for both of us. And building this great community that had we not ventured into hosting this each week, we wouldn't be having these great conversations with so many amazing people here week in and week, week out. So yeah, I think it's so important to partner with somebody, whether it's just an influencer, an expert, or just a colleague, it doesn't have to be an expert. But that was definitely my motivation was going to look like if you had said, we're not able to you're too busy. I don't even know if I would have done this with anybody else. I felt like you were like the expert, that would be perfect for me to do this with.

Suze Cooper 21:54

Oh, that's so kind of you. I mean, to be honest, I think, you know, I came on the Twitter Smarter chat, I think previously and had spoken about audio. So I'm guessing that's kind of where you'd gleaned my knowledge that I had knowledge of it all from but, you know, it's, I think, certainly, from what this articles saying, you know, if you can partner with someone that's influential in the space that you're going to be talking about, then obviously, they're going to have the audience that will be interested in your content, and you know, that's really gonna help you because they're gonna want to jump in and listen to you. You know, I get the question, no, which social audio platform? Should I be on? You know, I can't be on all of them, or, you know, streaming? Well, you can be in all of them. And Michael is most certainly the king of being able to stream out to as many as you would like, but I think my answer to that question, generally, is that you go on to the platform where your audiences, it dials right back to that digital marketing 101, where you need to understand your audience, find out where they are, and that's where you want to, I was gonna say set up camp, but of course, being big tent that takes on different meaning for me at the moment. But that's where you want to be, you want to be where they are. And so it is about understanding your audience, as with any content creation, that you really want to resonate with people. And, you know, once you you understand that audience, if you can find someone that you can work with, that can 10 fold that audience for you, then absolutely ask the question as to whether or not they're up for doing it with you.

Madalyn Sklar 23:29

It never hurts to ask that I'm just a big when it comes to stuff like that, you know, if you don't ask, it'll always be a no. So you might as well ask. And another thing is article mentioned, when it comes to using social audio for your marketing is be consistent. We know that's incredibly important. If we were not doing this every single week, it'd be hard for people to remember to come to this and then we would not see the kind of results we get out of it like we currently do. So consistency is so incredibly important. If you're going to start hosting your own room, you know, have a regular schedule for doing it. So I just really thought this article was just really well written had some great ideas and thoughts. The other article that Rachel from Bedhead, bad redhead media shared, because she's an author, this particular article was geared a little bit more towards authors. But there's still a lot of great tips and ideas in here that you can get a lot of takeaways. So it doesn't necessarily have to be just for that one industry. The article is using social audio to connect with your readers. But when I'm reading through this article, is saying like what is social audio good for the same things, you know, book, event, book events, ongoing series, did think that authors do event extensions community building, but really whatever industry you're in, you could really apply to utilising social audio and then they had this little section in the article about five best practices and I'm sure you and I could talk for hours about best practices for social audio for podcasting for anything related to audio. But this article talked about get to know the social audio landscape meaning, like, get to know the different platforms and you know, find what works best for you, you and I love spaces, of course. But there's other platforms out there. And you might find, you know, we're hearing more and more about LinkedIn audio. And if you're a huge fan of LinkedIn, you're on there a lot, you have way more followers, you built a community over there, then that might be something that's well suited for you. So it definitely pays to get to, you know, like you and I, we've tried them all. Every time a new one, a new social audio platform comes on where we're always quick to jump on it to see like, is this something I'm interested in using? And I know when Spotify you know, first launch, there was it green room when they made green room that we were like, Oh, this is interesting. The I just remember the audio quality being amazing. And for a while I was thinking, I might actually use this for a little bit, just because it had such good audio quality at the time. But the more time I spent on it, the less I liked the platform for all the other reasons minus the quality. It just didn't feel like a good fit. But you don't know until you try it. Right. Like you gotta go spend time in it.

Suze Cooper 26:23

Yeah, I think I found this article particularly interesting, I suppose, having come from the Publishers Podcast Summit, I've literally been talking to publishers all day. And so this kind of really resonated with me, in terms of hearing how some of those broadcasters, publishers, news news publishers really have been using social audio. And they were talking today about how, you know, they have their platforms that they publish on, where certainly if they're journalists, you know, this is the straight down the line, non biassed and opinionated news that they're they're putting out there. And actually, what something like social audio or a podcast allows them to do is be human. It allows the human side and the story about the story to come out, which is quite often what people are really interested in. And I think, again, that can go for, I mean, we're talking about publishing, as you saying in this particular article, but it can work across the board. I mean, I remember way back when speaking to a lady on spaces, who was a wine buyer, and we were talking about how spaces could you know be used for her to speak about the story behind the wines and the story behind the the people that she's buying the wine from, and how they're making them and all of that, that storytelling element that brings that human idea, you know, that absolutely bring someone as a person, the person behind everything. That's what social audio is good for, you know, it's authentic, and it's real.

Madalyn Sklar 27:53

And a couple other things in this article talking about identifying your goals and your audience, which is so important. Just like when we started this, you know, what was our goal for this conversation? When it was we're gonna, we decided that let's share the latest social audio news each week. That's it, we keep it very simple. And then we stuck to that. And for a very specific audience, those of you that want to stay in the know with social audio, and many of you our social audio expert says well, and we love it, when you come on, and chat with us, when we are raised for the mic requests and do some q&a or just sharing your thoughts and ideas. We love getting that diverse conversation, hearing other voices. Also, this article talks about partnering, like, like we already talked about with the other article. And also super important scheduling and promoting these is whatever industry you're in, if you're using spaces you're hosting, schedule these out and then talk about tweet it posted on other social media platforms, putting your blog pin in your newsletter, you got to get the word out. And then my favourite bullet point in all of these was be authentic. And that's so incredibly important. We know with audio, authenticity really comes through. And I love how in this article it says don't rehearse. Just ask questions and be in the moment. I just love that. So does it such an interesting article. And you know, it's so interesting when you see something like this go, oh, this is for authors and readers. It's an apply to me. I'm not. I don't call myself an author. I mean, I've written stuff on. I don't think of myself as an author. But there's still a lot of good takeaways. When you find articles like this. I just felt it was worth sharing with all of you today.

Suze Cooper 29:38

Yeah, I think so too. Andrew, I can see you have the mic. Do you have some social audio gold for us this week?

Andrew Lyons 29:46

Hi, you too. Great show. As always, I would just pick it up. I was just looking at the dashboard and picking up what Madeline was talking about in regards to the big sites coming on board on to Twitter spaces and how It's still early. I'm just looking at the the upcoming spaces at the moment we have tomorrow. The New York Times with 54 million followers coming on, they're doing a base called Trump's shadow over the midterms. In four hours time we have the NFL, they're running pretenders contenders. Let's talk week five, they have 31 million followers. And third, we have YouTube creators. So let's just think about that YouTube creators with 6.6 million followers. They're using Twitter spaces to connect with their creators. I just think that's really, really interesting.

Suze Cooper 30:40

Yeah, we've spoken about that kind of partnership before, haven't we about how that's It feels strange that they would come over here to speak to people, but equally, it's the ease with which you can then connect with people that are going to be watching the content, I guess.

Andrew Lyons 30:56

Yeah, there's interest in their title is they're doing a whole thing on creators for climate action creators in conversation. And that is exactly what Twitter spaces is about. And not you know, I could I could keep going on just scrolling, scrolling all of the big brands that come in. And I think, you know, we would fast forward 18 months. I don't think there'll be a news agency that hasn't got a Twitter spaces.

Suze Cooper 31:19

Yeah, I think I think you're right, I think I think as well, you know, YouTube of obviously, again, this harks back to that audience piece that I was talking about earlier, YouTube are obviously aware or believe that their Creator audience is right here on Twitter. And so that's why they're going to use Twitter as the platform to get the message out. But yeah, I'm trying to work out why they wouldn't use their own platform to do that. Andrew, what's your What are your thoughts on that?

Andrew Lyons 31:43

Well, I suppose it allows them to reach another audience who may not have their YouTube channel or their YouTube short sorted, and it may give them an opportunity to start promoting that. And obviously, they've got a rev share now with the YouTube shorts, which I think will be very interesting. And I think they're going after trying to really tap into that quick, bite sized vertical video stuff. So having the ability to let the Twitter audience know about that thing would be very interesting for them, that may well be part of their premise. But it's not just the, from the Google, from YouTube side, we've also got lots of Google, Google dev on our rank running Twitter spaces to connect with their dev community, pretty much what Twitter did with Danielle, and how we all got involved with it. They're replicating that they're seeing that this works, because you know that the issue of being authentic, it almost comes to just be yourself. That is your authentic element. Be yourself be the brand that comes on, connects with your audience, open for questions, open for issues, address them all. People really, really respond to that. And we all want that. We just want to have honest conversations. And I think Twitter spaces for me, is the number one place where that's happening at the moment. The other big news, of course, floating about is Elon being back in the mix. Can you can you imagine? Let's just paint this picture. It all goes through and he hosts his very first space. Can you imagine what numbers that would get?

Madalyn Sklar 33:22

Oh, that would be insane. I'm sure it would just be crazy. Because if you when he was first starting this whole, I'm gonna buy Twitter thing months ago, his Twitter went crazy. And he would do polls and the numbers, number of people participate in his Twitter polls, where I never seen these kinds of numbers before for everything he was doing. So yeah, if he has a space, which I'm sure he will, it'll probably crash Twitter,

Andrew Lyons 33:49

when they keep saying they can handle unlimited listeners, and this would certainly push it to the limits. But what a what a great advertisement, it would be to brands all over the world if he suddenly jumped on board and held spaces, especially with the politicals coming up and all of the issues happening in America. Suddenly all the political parties would probably see this as another way to connect with the voters, swing voters. It can be a very interesting mix, and very timely.

Madalyn Sklar 34:20

And JoLynn is here Hi, JoLynn.

JoLynn 34:23

Hi, ladies. How are y'all today?

Madalyn Sklar 34:25

Doing great. Thank you for joining us.

JoLynn 34:27

Oh, thank you. I've really enjoyed listening to y'all. I have a background in radio and television broadcast, did that for a while and became a mom got out of the scene for 15 years and then got connected with somebody like hey, you know, audio helped me do this thing called Twitter spaces. They said what? Audio? Yes, I'm pretty Twitter illiterate. I always said I don't tweet. I'm not a twit. I've had to eat words lately, because I've been tweeting. So we were able to use Twitter. Are spaces to help this friend of mine come to a decision does she want to start a podcast and in the end, we did I think Twitter spaces for about a month, we didn't get a lot of traction just because you know, it's at a specific time and your, your community has to have that time available. And hers just simply didn't. But she was confident with it enough that she has a podcast, he's been doing it I think for almost three months now and she's getting good numbers, but we started that idea and fleshed it out in Twitter spaces.

Madalyn Sklar 35:36

That's awesome.

Suze Cooper 35:38

That's why I love to hear I love to hear you know, it's a good testing ground for stuff like that, it's a great place to come try out some different content, try out the conversation, see if they're gonna work. And and you know, there's that it does cost it costs time. And you know that and commitment and effort, but it gives you almost a whiteboard. If you like to have a play with some things and have some fun, like podcasting is meant to be fun people who knew it. And so this is is just like that whiteboard that you can experiment with stuff, try stuff out. And if you find that thing that flies, then that, you know, totally take that run with it and make it your space, your podcasts, your audio content, your blogs, your website, whatever it might be. That's what I think, you know, it really does give an open forum for that. And instant feedback from people, you can actually ask people in the space immediately. And it's a great way to use the space and to use that interaction and connection with people. So it's great to hear that, that that went so well.

Madalyn Sklar 36:45

Thank you to all of our speakers who came on and shared so much great stuff, and we're available and all of your favourite podcast apps were out there all things audio, you can also go to all things audio podcast.com as well.

Suze Cooper 36:59

You certainly can. And you can catch us here on Twitter and use the hashtag all things audio, and we'll pick that up throughout the week. So that's it for this week. But thank you so much to everyone that's been here in the space with us and those of you listening, and we'll catch up with you next week. Bye everybody.

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